Hi Nancy, You created a very clear image of how the younger and older students approach their learning. The second paragraph highlights a very common problem we have in our classes today. I am currently working with a student that came late, missed excessive classes but in her opinion worked hard when she was there so she deserves a higher grade than she got. My response was "yes, you worked hard when you were in class, but you missed 70% of the class and the work when it was turned in did not meet the standards of the field." This leaves a large gap between success and failure. I keep telling them they have to have the knowledge and skill sets in order to be successful. This is hard for them to comprehend sometimes since they only want a grade and go to the next class. Gary