Hi Eric. True statement. But there are a lot of ways to help. Specific to this discussion post, what is goal of educating students? To me, it's the transfer of expert knowledge from teacher to student that results in an application related to a specific career field. That's really the bottom line. Many ways to go about it, some more creative than others. But if my definition did not occur, how could we say we educated the students? In my mind, it comes down to "teaching" vs "learning". Regards, Barry