Karl, Right! I'm with you in regards to EC. It really doesn't help (in an educational sense), and you're right about those who need it least take full advantage. Mainly, EC is about points and grades, while the real emphasis should be on learning. Most EC assignments attempt to raise grades but really don't help understanding the learning that is required for success in a class. Opinions vary, this is mine, but I understand each institution and teacher has to decide what works best for them. Barry Westling