Hi David, These students are challenges that is for sure. I work hard on reinforcing the professional aspects of the course and the content I am sharing. I lay out the expectations clearly and then consistently enforce them. This doesn't always work but the majority of time I do reach them and get them engaged. I have dismissed some of these students from the class because I will not let them reduce the learning opportunities of the other students. When this happens the remaining students within this group get the message and the course goes well. Gary