Great thoughts. When I think about student centered I think about shifting the focus from a forum based on my curriculum, my plan, my way, to a focus that asks "what would work best for these students, how can I best teach them the material they need, and what creative thing(s) can I do that may be diiferent from previous classes?". I know we try to do this as much as possible, and usually there is a set curriculum that frames our lessons. More philosopically, we could ask "is it about our plan and teaching it great? Or is is it about the student learning the material, even if we deviate or modify the established curriculum. There may be institutional limits to how much adjusting can be done - I understand. I just think the we think in term of student learning as much or more than "great teaching", the student will benefit. Teaching vs. learning. Regards, Barry