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	<div class="river_content_display">Anytime a student comes to a staff member and says they have to quit, we feel we are half way home in our ability to save them.  A student who says they must quit is really saying "I really don't want to quit.  Could you help me find a way to stay?"  I am concerned with finding someway to intervene with those students who simply vanish without saying anything to anyone.  Does anyone have some techniques that they have found helpful in reaching out to these students?

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	<div class="river_content_display">One of the biggest causes of stress and the subsequent attrition we face in our school comes from peer and family pressure.  We have all to often seen parents that tell their sons or daughters "What makes you think you can do this, you never did anything else that you finished!".  As they get closer to graduation, the pressure increases.  We attribute much of this to jealousy.

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