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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>I'm saying that I don't understand the purpose of needlessly inflating point totals for a class.  why make a course work 1000 points if only 100 are sufficient.

Say for example I need to grade a student's tray of 15 chocolate chip cookies.  If the assignment is worth 30 points and a few things are wrong with a couple cookies (one is misshaped, another is burnt, etc.) then I can simply deduct 1 or 2 points for those errors.

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>I always try to assign fair point values for a specific project.  For a culinary example:  If a student assignment is to create a plate of food containing a protein, a starch, a vegetable and a sauce, and each of those are to be evaluated.  I try to assign a resonable point value for each, so, the plate total might be only 20 points - 5 points for each component.  5 points is realistic as the instructor may evaluate 5 areas like taste, temperature, consistency, cooking technique and appearance.  

Some instructors inflate point values to 100 or even 200 points&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100176/120968/364088' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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	<div class="river_content_display">I find it extremely difficult to give students practical exams as a culinary instructor.  For example, I have to test a student on his ability to make Hollandaise Sauce, and the test may be only the second or third time he has made it. If the sauce is a failure, I have to grade him accordingly - even though he may know the technique.  I think this is unfair testing but I'm forced to do it.

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>I'm saying that I don't understand the purpose of needlessly inflating point totals for a class.  why make a course work 1000 points if only 100 are sufficient.

Say for example I need to grade a student's tray of 15 chocolate chip cookies.  If the assignment is worth 30 points and a few things are wrong with a couple cookies (one is misshaped, another is burnt, etc.) then I can simply deduct 1 or 2 points for those errors.

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>I always try to assign fair point values for a specific project.  For a culinary example:  If a student assignment is to create a plate of food containing a protein, a starch, a vegetable and a sauce, and each of those are to be evaluated.  I try to assign a resonable point value for each, so, the plate total might be only 20 points - 5 points for each component.  5 points is realistic as the instructor may evaluate 5 areas like taste, temperature, consistency, cooking technique and appearance.  

Some instructors inflate point values to 100 or even 200 points&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100176/120968/364088' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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	<div class="river_content_display">I find it extremely difficult to give students practical exams as a culinary instructor.  For example, I have to test a student on his ability to make Hollandaise Sauce, and the test may be only the second or third time he has made it. If the sauce is a failure, I have to grade him accordingly - even though he may know the technique.  I think this is unfair testing but I'm forced to do it.

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So for example, one statement might be "This course was valuable to me."  A student might strongly disagree, but that response alone gives no clue as to how the instructor can improve the course.

When writing evaluations for students to fill out, it is critical that the response - whatever&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100177/108334/133868' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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