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								<h1>Rick Butler<span class='badge rounded-pill bg-primary'><a href='http://www.cheponline.org' target='_blank'>CHEP</a></span></h1><div class='profile-location'>Location: colorado springs, co</div></div>
	
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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Thanks Erin - as a very un-entitled Gen-X'er, I often get miffed at the distinction in mindset. No one gave me an agreement or attempted to nurse-maid me when I was getting my degrees. I had to work hard for it. There were no "support plans", "performance contracts", or anything of the sort. You did what that instructor told you by the numbers if you wanted to be successful in the class.

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	<div class="river_content_display">Dale:

That's a little harsh. The point I was making was that I'm not about to go about to go setting up "Performance Contracts" that are distinct from the syllabus, just because the Gen Y's and Millennials can't maintain the proper disciplines in the classroom, doesn't mean we need to make these kinds of concessions. 

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Hi Jodi:

Overall I see two schools of thought happening here.  On one hand I see a lot of discussion about how we can adapt the classroom to meet the needs of the student. On the other hand I don't see a lot of discussion about how the student needs to adapt him/her self to the needs of the classroom, course and curriculum. 

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	<div class="river_content_display">Dr. Meers - 

Wouldn't that be what the course syllabus is for? At our school, we issue the syllabus and have a signature page that the student will sign and turn in, but schools really would just hand out the syllabus and the student is expected to follow the conditions and standards laid out in the syllabus. Seems to me that we're saying that as long as we have a well written syllabus that focuses on objectives rather than subjectives, we've achieved the goals of the "Performance Contract", yes?

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>When I went through this part of the module,  I couldn't help but be irritated by it. I understand the issues with educating Generation Y folks. I understand that we have to adjust the learning environment to the needs of the class.

But when I read the information about "Performance Contracts" and "Investigative Research", I could only just scoff as I continued to see more and more capitulation and stepped over my boundary.

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	<div class="river_content_display">Well, it has a name because I've given it one in my practice.  As mentioned earlier, it's not a hard-fast rule where you're locked in at '20', but rather, it's about variety, keeping things fluid, and avoiding the "drone-zone" that seems to be counter productive with respect to classroom instruction.  

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	<div class="river_content_display">So it sounds like you are, on some level, adopting the Rule of Twenty already, knowing that some adult learners need a change up.  The thing I try to avoid is those marathon sessions of the SAME activity.  My experience has been that students do better with learning material if there are varieties of delivery and activity.

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Hi Barry:

I totally agree with that position (and yes, this thread has gone off tangent).  When students want it bad enough, they will give themselves to it.

Turning back toward the topic at hand, two-hour stretches of anything are rough at night, particularly after a full day's work and what not.  The concern that I'm hearing is that "if we don't get the content out while the students are still awake, they will miss it".  And while keeping the variety going and the class interesting, particularly when students are in the drone-zone is important, there is also the need&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100176/122196/397796' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Hi Dianna:

As I write this reply, I am sitting in the judo dojo at USA Judo, watching my kids train in the same gym where members of the US Olympic team train, with people who aspire to be on Team USA someday.  As I watch them, thoughts come to my mind about motivation.

We have the same issues with out night crews and there are basically two approaches here.  One, they made a decision to attend college because they want something different - they want change.  Change, though, often requires sacrifice.  As an instructor, you have to encourage them&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100176/122196/397793' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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								<h1>Rick Butler<span class='badge rounded-pill bg-primary'><a href='http://www.cheponline.org' target='_blank'>CHEP</a></span></h1><div class='profile-location'>Location: colorado springs, co</div></div>
	
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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Thanks Erin - as a very un-entitled Gen-X'er, I often get miffed at the distinction in mindset. No one gave me an agreement or attempted to nurse-maid me when I was getting my degrees. I had to work hard for it. There were no "support plans", "performance contracts", or anything of the sort. You did what that instructor told you by the numbers if you wanted to be successful in the class.

I'm often amazed at the sheer lack of coping skills when Millenials are faced with real challenge. And I believe the biggest contributor is the idea that education&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100182/129560/534946' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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	<div class="river_content_display">Dale:

That's a little harsh. The point I was making was that I'm not about to go about to go setting up "Performance Contracts" that are distinct from the syllabus, just because the Gen Y's and Millennials can't maintain the proper disciplines in the classroom, doesn't mean we need to make these kinds of concessions. 

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Hi Jodi:

Overall I see two schools of thought happening here.  On one hand I see a lot of discussion about how we can adapt the classroom to meet the needs of the student. On the other hand I don't see a lot of discussion about how the student needs to adapt him/her self to the needs of the classroom, course and curriculum. 

We look all across our society and we see our education standards as well as test scores falling to the floor. And I think our society has gotten tired of asking the question "why is this happening?"&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100182/129560/534937' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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	<div class="river_content_display">Dr. Meers - 

Wouldn't that be what the course syllabus is for? At our school, we issue the syllabus and have a signature page that the student will sign and turn in, but schools really would just hand out the syllabus and the student is expected to follow the conditions and standards laid out in the syllabus. Seems to me that we're saying that as long as we have a well written syllabus that focuses on objectives rather than subjectives, we've achieved the goals of the "Performance Contract", yes?

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>When I went through this part of the module,  I couldn't help but be irritated by it. I understand the issues with educating Generation Y folks. I understand that we have to adjust the learning environment to the needs of the class.

But when I read the information about "Performance Contracts" and "Investigative Research", I could only just scoff as I continued to see more and more capitulation and stepped over my boundary.

There comes a point in the classroom where we can talk all about generation differences and locating insights into the thought processes of people. But the student&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100182/129560/534924' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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	<div class="river_content_display">Well, it has a name because I've given it one in my practice.  As mentioned earlier, it's not a hard-fast rule where you're locked in at '20', but rather, it's about variety, keeping things fluid, and avoiding the "drone-zone" that seems to be counter productive with respect to classroom instruction.  

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	<div class="river_content_display">So it sounds like you are, on some level, adopting the Rule of Twenty already, knowing that some adult learners need a change up.  The thing I try to avoid is those marathon sessions of the SAME activity.  My experience has been that students do better with learning material if there are varieties of delivery and activity.

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	<div class="river_content_display"><p>Hi Barry:

I totally agree with that position (and yes, this thread has gone off tangent).  When students want it bad enough, they will give themselves to it.

Turning back toward the topic at hand, two-hour stretches of anything are rough at night, particularly after a full day's work and what not.  The concern that I'm hearing is that "if we don't get the content out while the students are still awake, they will miss it".  And while keeping the variety going and the class interesting, particularly when students are in the drone-zone is important, there is also the need&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100176/122196/397796' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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As I write this reply, I am sitting in the judo dojo at USA Judo, watching my kids train in the same gym where members of the US Olympic team train, with people who aspire to be on Team USA someday.  As I watch them, thoughts come to my mind about motivation.

We have the same issues with out night crews and there are basically two approaches here.  One, they made a decision to attend college because they want something different - they want change.  Change, though, often requires sacrifice.  As an instructor, you have to encourage them&mldr; <span><a href='/topic/comment/100176/122196/397793' style='text-decoration:none;'>>>></a></span></p></div>					<!-- </p> -->
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